Ordered a set of fulsac true duals from Kruzerproducts on 2/20/13. Paid with pay-pal. Never got any kind of e-mail from the guy. Today I called his phone posted on his site, no answer, left a message asking if there was a problem. Today I go a refund back from him. None in stock, no idea when. If you are a member of the CVO forums, fullsac will give you 10% off, which will pay for the shipping.