My opinion of the V&H Dresser Duals I installed on my 2012 EGC. They look great, and the heat was greatly reduced, however I do not like the sound. I used the stock mufflers. I only wanted to remove the heat from the Cat. Did not want to increase the volume of the exhaust. I knew it would be louder, just to loud for my old but. I have removed them and installed a de-cat header. Much better.