For my 08 Ultra, I'm leaning towards Rinehart or Bub 7's / Duels with a Ness Big Sucker and a PC III, no Dyno for now, maybe later. I went down to the "shop" on Saturday to hang out for a few hours and talk to riders as they pulled in. Met some great people that were more than happy to tell me about their bikes and mod's. I strongly suggest this MO for anyone wanting good accurate info when selecting a Satge 1 option. Words like "loud", "deep" and "rumble" cannot be accurately described on a forum. I was able to see and hear a lot of different Stage 1 upgrades, talk to the owners, listen, look and learn. All for free and made some new friends. One thing for sure is that whatever system someone has on their bike is what they will tell you is best. My advise is to not get in a hurry. Look, listen, ask and learn and then go your own way. My 2 cents.