Unfortunately, as several posts to this thread have pointed out, "honor" seems tobe a word that has been lost. For myself, I think I summarized my feelings on this topic a few months ago when purchasing a new car. The dealer was trying the usual tactics, and during an exchange that was getting somewhat heated, I commented :"Look, I get it, it's your job to seperate me from as much of my money as you can, legally..It's my job to prevent you from doing that". Surprisingly enough, he paused for a moment, got that "yeah, that kind of hit's it right on the head" look, and we started working on a deal. It's definitely not right what some sales people do, but you have to protect yourself. With whatever you buy, research prices, research what your trade, if any, is worth, and research finance....