One other thing. Be recognisant of the fact that it is VERY hard to organize a ride involving lots of riders, vendors and groups. You can't please all the people all the time. I tend to be less critical of the organizers as I am of individual riders who participate. Don't let one bad (it was actually a "mediocre" event) so no harm no foul, and yes I am an optimist, so I usually come away with good thoughts and ideas to make my next ride more enjoyable HOG or not. Things happen, and it takes a lot to make a motorcyle event successful. Try another HOG event, maybe with some local group and see if you come away with a better exprerience...don't let one time make all future events bad. That would be more of a tragedy than a minor disapointment