I've got the Sundowner on my 04 Heritage that's been there 8 years now, wow, time flies when you're havin fun, anyways back to the seat, laying on the floor beside the stock seat they don't look that much different but on the bike you can really tell the difference. I've done several 500 mile days with mine with no pain at all. In those 8 years it's not been babied at all and still looks & sits like new. I'd buy it again, no questions ask.