I agree, I think the way they took the idea to have the hidden mounts on the rear fender is pretty cool, but I really think it's the seat that just stands out and turns people away. I finally figured out that was what I don't like, because it's all you can see. But, then again, to each his own, and if the owner of a rocker can walk out and love his bike the way we do, more power to him.......)there ok until they get to the back then it all goes hideously wrong, its just soooooo ugly at the rear