here in plymouth england,we're surrounded by hills and windey roads,and more traffic islands(roundabouts per acre than the pope got priests)So I got only 6k on my rear Avon venom,and about the same..ish... on the front.I keep both tires at pillion pressures(40 psi rear,30 up front,according to the sticker on the frame down tubes).And ride responsibly,but not like a pensioner.lol