As RichardS stated “’As Glider pointed out, this topic has been hit at least once before, but I guess since we take on so many new members each month there's some thoughts that will get re-opened from time to time!’” As a newbie, I will add my two cents to this most recent post, although I read the 56 posts on the first thread. I have ridden in many group rides; Blue Knights, Rolling Thunder, Toys for Tots, Teddy Bear Run, charity poker runs, HOG chapter, disabled veterans, etc. Every time I survive, I swear I will never do another one. I equate group riding to a team sport, military operation, or police response to a crime in progress. If the people involved are highly competent, highly trained and highly motivated, the chances for success are exponentially better than throwing together a bunch of people that just want to be involved. I doubt that many people go on a group ride with the intention of throwing a monkey wrench in the operation, they are simply not aware of the dynamics involved, or lack the skill to participate safely. Therein lies the problem! No matter how good a rider YOU may be, you are potentially surrounded by people who do not have a clue. On the most highly organized run I have been involved in, the entire interstate highway between Petersburg and Richmond, VA was completely shut down by the State Police. No traffic whatsoever other than hundreds of motorcycles going to the children’s hospital in Richmond. Even so, the speeds varied between 45 and 85. I was behind a guy on a chopper trying to light his cigarette as we were headed north. By the time he got it lit, there was a huge gap between him and the hundreds of riders ahead. Needless to say, he had to speed up to catch them, so the accordion effect was in full swing. He couldn’t have been the only one doing stupid stuff; it was a continuous, speed up, slam on brakes. I just couldn’t see the rest of them. Under the right scenario, I think group riding would be a great thing. For me personally, I’m done with it!